{"id":7726,"date":"2022-06-23T18:31:59","date_gmt":"2022-06-23T16:31:59","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/women-in-exile.net\/?p=7726"},"modified":"2022-06-23T18:31:59","modified_gmt":"2022-06-23T16:31:59","slug":"conversation-between-manu-12-und-peer-friend-of-women-in-exile","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/women-in-exile.net\/en\/unser-buch\/conversation-between-manu-12-und-peer-friend-of-women-in-exile\/","title":{"rendered":"Conversation between Manu (12) und Peer (friend of Women* in Exile)"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p>Excerpt from pages 142\u2013144 of our book\u00a0\u201cBreaking Borders to Build Bridges\u201c available through\u00a0<a rel=\"noreferrer noopener\" href=\"https:\/\/www.edition-assemblage.de\/en\/books\/breaking-borders-to-build-bridges\/\" target=\"_blank\">Edition Assemblage<\/a><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: Hello, Manu!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M: Hi!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: It\u2019s nice that I can do an interview with you today for the book by Women in Exile because Women in Exile turns 20 next year.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: I\u2019m happy to, and all the best! (laughs and raises a clenched fist)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: My first question is: which meetings or summer trips with Women in Exile do you remember? And what have you done with Women in Exile so far?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: Well, we did lots of bus tours and often went from one <em>Lager<\/em> and one place to another&#8230; Yeah, sure, it was lovely!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: Did you always go by bus or did you also go by boat or something?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: Often by bus, sometimes by car, and then \u2013 though not all that often \u2013 we sometimes did a raft tour. We went on a raft. I can\u2019t remember ever going by boat, just on a raft.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: You mean kids were allowed on a raft? Wasn\u2019t that too dangerous?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: No, it wasn\u2019t dangerous. Sure kids were allowed on, even young kids. It wasn\u2019t dangerous, but a bit risky, sort of. That\u2019s why we wore life jackets, yeah&#8230; So it was safe enough.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: And how did you find the childcare at the meetings?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: It was cool, yeah. But sometimes we really mucked up and then we ran away, like. That wasn\u2019t terribly helpful. (laughs)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P: Uh-huh, OK. Did you kids band together?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: Yeah, sure, hmm.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: Did you like going to demos in the past? Did you go to demos a lot?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M. (nods): In the past, yes. And you could say I liked it, but only because my mum carried me, and the others too. I wouldn\u2019t have liked it if I\u2019d had to walk myself, I don\u2019t think. I was in the stroller or up on people\u2019s shoulders the whole time, you know. So I was at a lot of demos. Sure. But now&#8230; not so many.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: Now you\u2019re too big for anyone to carry on their shoulders anymore?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M: That\u2019s right. I hardly go to any these days.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: Would you go to demos if you didn\u2019t have to trudge along?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: Hm, maybe\u2026<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: I remember a demo in Hamburg [We\u2019ll come united], with B.\u2019s grandchildren, and there was a sound truck. You were all allowed to sit on the back and didn\u2019t have to walk. Only the adults had to walk&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: Yeeeeah, that was sooo cool!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: Meaning something has to be organized for the kids so they don\u2019t always have to walk, and then you\u2019d be more interested in going to demos again?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M: Yeah, for sure! (nods)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: Do you know why Women in Exile organizes demos and actions? What do they actually do?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: Well, they kind of support people, like women* and stuff. And also dark-skinned people. And they go to demos, like, and make placards, and then: \u201cYeah, you guys are cool!\u201d (raises her fist). And: \u201cYeah, we support black people and women*!\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: And how do demos work then? Is there music, or does someone talk?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: Well, people often talk, they talk a lot. With translation and everything. Yeah, and then there\u2019s a lot of music playing. And the demos themselves \u2013 sometimes they\u2019re big, and other times very small.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: Can you think of a slogan that\u2019s often called out there?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M. (thinks briefly): O l\u00e0l\u00e0, o l\u00e9l\u00e9, solidarit\u00e9&#8230; alek, alek? De sans-papiers!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: Yes&#8230; avec les sans-papiers! In French, right?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M: Yeah&#8230;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: What would you like to do again with Women in Exile if you could choose, if you had a wish?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M: A trip! A tour! I\u2019d go on one straight away!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P: Where to? What would you most like to do?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: Oooh&#8230; well, first of all, I think I\u2019d go on a bus tour with a raft tour. In case anyone\u2019s afraid of water, like. And then Hamburg, Munich&#8230; see a bit of Germany.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: Uh-huh, OK&#8230; Is there anything else you\u2019d like to say for the book, for Women in Exile?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: First of all, happy birthday, pre-dated. So, er, yeah.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P.: OK, thanks a lot for the interview.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: You\u2019re welcome.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>P: Bye!<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>M.: See ya!<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Excerpt from pages 142\u2013144 of our book\u00a0\u201cBreaking Borders to Build Bridges\u201c available through\u00a0Edition Assemblage P.: Hello, Manu! M: Hi! P.: It\u2019s nice that I can do an interview with you today for the book by Women in Exile because Women in Exile turns 20 next year. M.: I\u2019m happy to, and all the best! 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